Special Council - November 7th 2016

Mayfield Village Reserve Hall
Monday, November 7, 2016 – 7:00 p.m.

The Council of Mayfield Village met in Special Session on Monday, November 7, 2016 at Mayfield Village Reserve Hall.  Council President Saponaro called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.

ROLL CALL:          

Present: Mr. Jerome, Mr. Marquardt, Mr. Marrie, Mrs. Mills, Dr. Parker, Mr. Saponaro, and Mr. Williams

Also Present: Mayor Bodnar, Mr. Wynne, Mr. Guidetti, Mr. Cappello, Chief Edelman, Chief Carcioppolo, Mr. Marrelli, Mr. Metzung, Mr. Thomas, Ms. Wolgamuth, and Mrs. Betsa

Absent:   None

The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was given.

Public Hearing:

  • Proposed Ordinance 2016-20:  Proposed rezoning of 730 SOM from single family resident to office-laboratory.

Council President Saponaro stated, this Public Hearing is on proposed Ordinance 2016-20.  It is a proposed rezoning of 730 SOM Center Road from single-family resident to office-laboratory. There is more to the story. That was just the way we captioned it on here.  Mr. Fisher, if you could introduce yourself as well as everyone that’s involved in this project?  I think there were two doctors and some other people.

Ken Fisher

I am the attorney for Georgian Medical Arts II, LLC who is the property owner of record of the property located at 730 SOM Center Road.  With me this evening is Dr. Yoram Moyal, physician, who again is the principal and managing member of Georgian Medical Arts II, LLC and also Mr. Tim Mulle the Project Architect, who is seated back in the fourth row and who will make an actual presentation after I give a brief overview of the project.

The process itself in terms of the requested rezoning commenced on or about March 18, 2016 when a written correspondence was submitted to the Clerk of Council requesting that the property that is in the Village’s single-family house zoning district be rezoned office-laboratory zoning district consistent with the zoning in the property that is owned by Georgian Medical Arts II, LLC and presently leased to the University Hospital Systems and is the beautiful medical office building that sits contiguous to the subject property.

Council President Saponaro asked, will someone have a map to show us?

Mr. Fisher replied, yes, we have boards. We apologize. We thought we were going to be in the smaller room and didn’t realize again, the size of this room and the screen or else we would have had a projector. Unfortunately we don’t.  We do have poster boards which will show again the project itself and what is being contemplated.

The property as presently zoned cannot be economically developed as a single-family house.  It is located contiguous to office-laboratory and next to Fisher’s Tavern which, it is our understanding, is presently in the process of being redeveloped by the Quagliata family as a barbecue. The Fire Department is there. The Mayfield Village Service Department is there.

The process itself requesting rezoning for the parcel which is the front parcel adjacent to the University Hospital Systems Medical Building is zoned presently single-family. We are requesting to rezone per correspondence sent on March 18th to the office-laboratory district.  The property itself is immediately adjacent to Fisher’s Tavern which is presently being redeveloped as a barbecue and it is also in the adjacent area to the Fire Department, Mayfield Village Service Department, Ken’s Auto and a parcel owned by the Village.  The proposed use is identical to the use of Governor’s Village Assisted Living which is located at 280 North Commons Boulevard, also the office-laboratory district which operates an assisted living facility pursuant to a conditional use permit that was granted as part of the settlement of a lawsuit several years ago. Presently, no zoning district exists in Mayfield Village that allows the proposed assisted living use that Dr. Moyal is requesting.

The Planning Commission on August 1st held a public meeting.  There was much discussion and it was a 3-3 vote.  The recommendation was submitted to Council. As a result of that recommendation, which was no recommendation which will require 5 votes of Council in order to place the requested rezoning on the ballot and that in fact, ladies and gentlemen, members of Council, Mayor Bodnar, is what the applicant, Georgian Medical Arts, LLC is requesting that the electorate of the Village be given an opportunity to vote on the request to rezone from single-family house district to the office-laboratory district.

The intended use of the property is assisted living.  I would like to point out for the record that many years ago, Dr. Moyal came forward with a request to rezone to assisted living and actually submitted a plan but at that point decided not to go forward.  That plan again has changed.  The information at the time, Mayor Bodnar, I believe, started initially discussing this was when  Mayor Rinker was in office and of course your term began last January.  The request was through the Law Department that we actually submit a plan showing conceptually what we would build.  There is no zoning in the Village Code that allows for assisted living but because of the change in the Charter, Section 12 now allows a use variance to be issued.

The request is to rezone to office-laboratory as approved by the electorate.  There would be a separate administrative due process where a use variance pursuant to Section 12 of the Charter would be requested and if the use variance to allow for assisted living is granted, we would come in with full plans that would be presented to the Planning Commission consistent with what is going to be presented tonight.

I go back to the initial request made several years ago, by the same doctor, Dr. Moyal.  There were 3 stories. We were dealing with the Administration, Building Department and others, it was reduced from 3 stories to 2 stories.  There were originally 80 units back in around 2000 that we requested.  It is now 52 units.  The square footage has been reduced from what was originally submitted, 75,000 square feet to 45,000 square feet.  It required a 100 foot setback by State law from the gas well that is on the site.  It sits right next to Fisher’s Tavern and in front of the University Hospital system medical building.  It is also owned by the same property owner, Dr. Moyal of the Georgian Medical Arts II, LLC.

The request itself, again, is to allow the electorate; it will require 5 votes of Council, to put on the ballot sometime in 2017, whether it be February, May election, whatever Council will decide, to allow the electorate, again based upon the referendum zoning requirement in the Charter to allow the rezoning of the single-family use to the requested office-laboratory use consistent with the zoning that exists on the other adjacent parcel owned by the same property owner.

If that is successful, at that point, under Charter, Section 12, a use variance may be requested to allow the assisted living to be built consistent with the plans that are going to be discussed tonight by Tim Mulle, Project Architect and there would be obviously full plans to be reviewed by the Planning Commission so there would be significant administrative review.  There would be a Development Agreement entered into so that there is no question about what is going to be built, what it is going to look like, and how it is going to interface with the existing medical office building as well as the surrounding properties.

You will hear from Dr. Moyal.  He has been in the community for a number of years.  He has a number of patients that live in Mayfield Village.  He is a member of the community.  We are submitting plans to use as transparent as we possibly can so that level of comfort is as high as possible. There are homes on 91.  I am sure there are residents here.  There has not been a new single-family house built since at least 2000.  It doesn’t work.  This site does not work for a single-family home.  No one is going to build a single-family home on this site in front of a medical office building and next to Fisher’s Tavern. We are in a quandary.  If the existing zoning does not work, what zoning does?  We are suggesting office-laboratory consistent with the use owned by the same property owner, developed by the same property owner immediately behind and again with assisted living which would have to be approved pursuant to a use variance which the Charter has recently allowed.  Hopefully I have explained what we are intending to do.

Council President Saponaro asked, is Dr. Moyal going to speak?

Mr. Fisher replied, at this point Mr. Mulle is going to make a presentation.

Tim Mulle

I would encourage anyone who wants to come closer to please feel free to do so.  It is going to be difficult to see in detail.

Council President Saponaro stated, and I would add that anyone who is going to have public comment is going to have to come to the podium anyways.  You may want to come down if you are planning speaking up.  It’s up to you.  Please proceed.

My name is Tim Mulle.  I am with TMA Architects.  We have been working with Dr. Moyal to put together a conceptual design for the property as Ken just outlined for you.  This first board that is on easel shows the entire site.  Over here to this side of the board is SOM. This is Route 91.

Council President Saponaro stated, Mr. Mulle, if I could interrupt you.  If you could lift that up and bring it here and kind of show Council and then bring it to the audience and show them.  We all have to understand what you are talking about and it is difficult right now.  I apologize. I don’t mean to interrupt your flow but if you could please give us a quick glance at what you are talking about and then you can bring it to the audience so they can see what you are talking about as well.

Mr. Mulle stated, the overall site plan indicates SOM Center, the existing building back here, the proposed new structure.  This large white area over here is the existing building and parking lot.  This is a medical office building.  All of this site in front of the existing building, parking lot, up to 91 is open. Fisher’s restaurant is over here.  This is the proposed location of the new building.  The existing driveway goes through the site. You can get into the new building from that driveway.  The building would not have any direct access from SOM.  You would come off SOM onto the property’s existing driveway.  That is how you would access the building.  This would not create any change in terms of vehicle access that exists today.

Council President Saponaro asked, will you explain where Fisher’s is versus the Fire Station versus everything else so that they have a clear understanding?

Mr. Mulle stated, Fisher’s restaurant is the only additional site that you can see on this particular plan.  In terms of the basic footprint of what is here, it is located up here.  This site goes around Fisher’s.

A member of the audience raised his hand with a question.

Council President Saponaro stated, I am sorry.  This is not Q&A.  Everyone who wants to speak are going to have get up and talk, but you have to give your presentation first.  Once you are done, if anyone wants to speak, they are more than welcome to.  Come to the podium, give me your name, your address, so we have it for the record.  We have to have an accurate record here so we know who is speaking and what information we are provided.  I know it would be easier if we could just have a dialogue, but it is a public meeting and we need to do it this way.  I apologize sir, I don’t mean to cut you off.  You will have an opportunity.  Please proceed.

Mr. Mulle continued, the proposed building is a 2-story assisted living facility. It would be designed to follow the same architectural character of the existing medical office building which is essentially a brick Georgian-style design.  This building would also follow that same character although it is probably smaller than the medical office building.  The proposed building again is in total about 45,000 square feet.  It includes a basement, 2 stories that are visible from the exterior, less than 40,000 square feet with 52 living units that are basically designed as studio apartments on two floors.  There’s a fairly minimal amount of parking because this site will not really generate a lot of traffic.

The second board that we have is a concept view of what the building might look like.  Again, as you can see, it is very much of the Georgian character, brick, white siding and trim, cupola on the top, sloped roof.  It has pretty much of a residential kind of character to it.

This is a conceptual presentation.  We are in the very early stages in terms of project development but the scope of the project in terms of size and number of units is pretty well fixed.  That’s because of site conditions.  We have, as was mentioned, an existing gas well on the property which is located between the existing building and the location of the proposed new building.  The new building needs to be situated 100 feet minimum away from the gas well.  We will also try to maintain a good setback from the street.  We have a 40-foot setback from the property line which actually puts us in the neighborhood of about 60 feet from the street as the proposed location.  It’s a pretty good setback.  It does not sit right next to the street.

The other plans that we have are some basic floor plans which might be better for folks to look at later in detail than right now.  They are basic layouts of each of the two floors indicating the entrance, common areas, dining areas, all of the basic support functions that are necessary to support a residential facility for care.

Council President Saponaro asked, it’s a 20,000 square footprint for each floor?

Mr. Mulle replied, it’s about 16,000-18,000 per floor and then there’s about 9,000-10,000 square feet in the basement level.  The living units are on the first and second floor.

That’s the basic program we have.

Council President Saponaro stated, anyone from the audience, you are more than welcome while we are talking to come and look at these if you want to.  You certainly can look at it just so you have a clear understanding.  Thank you Mr. Mulle, Dr. Moyal?

Dr. Yoram Moyal

I am Board-certified in internal medicine.  I appreciate you allowing me to speak here tonight.  Thank you for having me.  Mayor, Council members, citizens, officials.  I have been a doctor for over 25 years.  We moved into Mayfield Village about 2001. We bought the building from Nacy Panzica. We converted the building from an office building into a medical facility.  Initially it was a small building. It was a small practice.  Over the years it grew.  About 2004-2005, we approached the city about zoning the front to an assisted living at that time and realized it was residential zoning and that did not work too well because of all the hoops we would have to jump. It was difficult at that time, so we let it go.

In about 2008, we joined University Hospitals, a major healthcare facility system in Cleveland.  We have basically brought in excellent and state of the art medical care for Mayfield Village. We have grown. We work with a lot of our citizens here, residents of Mayfield Village. We have a lot of patients from the community.  We have been good members of the community.  We live in the community. We work for the community. We try to do the best we can for our patients, for the well-being of our patient’s healthcare.

As an extension, we have those conversations with our patients at all times.  We see at least once or twice a month families that have issues with caring for their loved ones.  It’s a difficult issue.  What do we do with them?  We have a patient that needs help.  They are frail.  They are not exactly nursing home patients.  They can care for themselves.  They live a good quality of life, good quality of living.  But they are not safe at home alone.  They are not. The question becomes what do we do with our loved one?  They will either have to leave the community, or do we keep them in our community?  It is important to realize that those are difficult issues.

I thought as an extension to our practice of medicine, it was a wise decision at least to think about a nursing home, not that concept, but an assisted living which is a much lower level of care.  It’s a care in which we help the community, community members, our loved ones, our moms, our dads and our residents, our citizens.  We thought it would be a very good concept, a wonderful concept and an extension of our medical care.  It would help keep our loved ones here in the community.  As you well know, there are other communities around here that are all building a resident home, nursing home or assisted living.  The last thing we want to do is have our citizens here leave our community to go to other communities, especially our family members, our patients that we care for and see every day.  It’s very important we keep our care with our patients, with their doctors in our community.  Not other communities.   An assisted living will enhance our community, enhance the care we give our patients and family members.  And that’s important.

Council President Saponaro asked, Dr. Moyal, who else is involved in this? Because you are talking in the collective “we” and I want to understand.

Dr. Moyal replied, the “we” is Dr. Petroff.  He is my partner.  He could not be here tonight.  He had a meeting with his landscaper.

Council President Saponaro asked, so just you and Dr. Petroff are partners?

Dr. Moyal replied, right.

Council President Saponaro stated, thank you.  We appreciate you getting up and speaking.


5-minute limit imposed by Chair. Those who wish to speak must first state their name and address (The public is requested to limit their discussion to agenda item only.)

Council President Saponaro stated, at this time, this is the Open Portion.  You are more than welcome to come up here.  If anyone can’t get up and has difficulty, raise your hand. We will bring the mic to you.  You just need to give your name and address so we can hear your question and get it answered.

Dr. Frank Karfes
Hickory Hill Drive

I built my home in 1968.  I only have one suggestion.  Since I have lived on Hickory Hill, I have had a dry basement until two years ago when they built the Library. Six houses on my street had floods in the basement which included me.  I know this is going to be an increased drain on the infrastructure and I am only cautioning everybody that we pay attention to the surrounding neighborhood even though we want to take care of our elderly people.  But after 40 years I had 3 inches of water in my basement. I can only attribute it to – and then they tried to pacify us at the meeting that we had that we had too much drainage off of the flat area of driveways and roofs so I don’t know where we are going from there.  I appreciate your time.

Council President Saponaro stated, thank you Dr., we appreciate it as well. Who else would like to make a comment?  If anyone wants, just come on down. You don’t have to raise your hand.  Raise your hand if you can’t make it down and we will bring the mic to you.  You can just come down otherwise.

Celeste Sabol
6784 Meadowood

I just had a couple questions. Are you saying that residents would have priority admission to this facility?

Dr. Moyal stated, we see those patients.  The resident would have the likelihood of going first because we know them.

Ms. Sabol continued, the only other question I have is many times, it depends on the time of day that you are trying to exit off of Thornapple on to SOM, it is extremely difficult.  People going in and out of Fisher’s Tavern, people going into University.  If you are trying to leave to go to work in the morning, it’s very difficult.  I think that would be a major concern with additional traffic.

Council President Saponaro asked, you are concerned about the impact on the traffic?

Ms. Sabol replied, on the traffic, absolutely. And the water too in my basement.  Thank you.

Jim Kless

I live on the corner of Thornapple and SOM.  It is single-family housing along SOM Center, along Thornapple, the Village owns the property across the street from my house and additional traffic and just the view from SOM Center, we need to keep it as pleasant and good looking as we can for our community.  I am not opposed obviously to assisted living, but I think a place like down where the Progressive area is, that’s a great place for assisted living.  There is one down there.

Council President Saponaro asked, Mr. Kless, you had a question about setback?

Mr. Kless replied, he answered that.  The setback is 40-60 feet. The façade, would that be very very attractive?

Patricia Russo
883 Beechers Brook

I have been a resident for quite some time, as long as Dr. Moyal, if not more. Visualize if you will that this plot of land is a character actor.  If you were to change the configuration of the character actor, you wouldn’t have any better enhancement and any better reason to be what it is now. Thank you.

Council President Saponaro asked, anyone else?

June Gottschling

I have been a resident for over 56 years.  I am a proud resident of Mayfield Village.  I was not going to speak tonight at all but all of a sudden I realized, I am looking at plans at these places where people like me, 91 years old.  I am thinking, you know what?  I don’t want to live there.  Even though I can be assisted, they look like little boxes.  How many units are there?

Council President Saponaro replied, 52.

Ms. Gottschling stated, it looks like you are being squeezed into a shoe box.  I think living is more important to me than living in a little thing like that. I am just thinking about it and I know there is architectural plans and they are very well thought out.  I am just thinking for the kind of people that are going to be living in those spaces.  I don’t want to be there.

Council President Saponaro asked, to answer your question, Mr. Mulle, what is the average size of these studios and one bedrooms?

Mr. Mulle replied, they range from around 300-400 square feet.  They are not large. They are small apartments.  It is typical of most assisted living and elder care facilities.

Ms. Gottschling stated, that’s true.  When you are old, you are inconsequential sometimes.

Mr. Mulle stated, that’s one of the difficult things about these types of facilities.  It is a change.  When you are able to live in your own home where you are used to being, you have been forever, in a house that’s 2,500 square feet with a yard and everything, it’s a difficult transition for certain.

Ms. Gottschling stated, we hope you all get there someday.

Council President Saponaro stated, thank you for your comment. Anyone else?

Jim Farmer
Aintree Park Drive

I have been a resident since 1990.  I am recovering from my third surgery this year.  I never thought I would have to consider living in assisted living.  I don’t for a while now, but this whole experience has made me realize that I would like to see this type of living arrangement in Mayfield Village.  I don’t want to leave from the Village.  I like the idea of being able to stay here in that kind of facility. I was a practicing attorney and I think I still am when I get back to work.  I have spent a lot of time working with the elderly and visiting different arrangements that they have in the Cleveland area.  My Dad recently passed away.  He was out in Hudson in a facility.  I had a lot of clients in those facilities.  It’s a good thing to have. It would be a good thing I think for Mayfield Village to have this type of alternative to stay in Mayfield Village. We really don’t have that much of an opportunity for that kind of living arrangement.

Council President Saponaro stated, thank you for your comment. We appreciate it. Anybody else?

Chief Eugene Carcioppolo
Mayfield Village Fire Department

For those of you that do not know me, I am Chief Carcioppolo.  I just wanted to express a couple of concerns I have with the proximity of the proposed assisted living facility to the gas well. You mentioned 100 feet.  To be honest with you, I have not looked at the Building Code as it refers to setbacks from gas wells on a daily basis because that’s not really my job, but I was on the Safety Committee for the Gates Mills Regional Gas Well Commission and they released their report almost a year ago.  It was released on November 17, 2015.  The current setback was 150 feet at the time.  150 feet is the distance from the gas well to the structure.

Our recommendation based off of from an emergency response standpoint was dealing with if there was a release of gas or chemical from the gas well, we use an emergency response guide handbook which gives us initial isolation distances and evacuation distances.  So to put a facility with 52 occupancies or rooms or patients you could say within 150 feet, our initial isolation distance for that would be 330 feet in every direction so if you were to put this anywhere on that parcel, we would be having to evacuate all of the people within that building to get them into a safe area.  That’s if the gas well were to malfunction.   That’s the one main concern.

Council President Saponaro asked, Chief, when you say malfunction, are you talking about any malfunction or something that’s major or any type of protocol?

Chief Carcioppolo replied, it’s hard to say.  It’s a mechanical device.  When they fail sometimes they fail catastrophically and sometimes they don’t have as large of a problem but either way and even if it was not, let’s say there was no fire involved, it was just a gas. That gas could have an ill effect on tenants there because the geriatric population typically does have respiratory or cardiac problems.  Those problems would be exacerbated by any types of hazardous materials that would leak potentially from the wellhead.

Council President Saponaro asked, so you would have to evacuate in any situation if there was an issue there, you would evacuate all of them?  Is that what you are saying?

Chief Carcioppolo replied, if there was a situation where we had a confirmed leak, then yes, we would follow the emergency response guidebook and that would be our most pressing issue to get 50 some people out of the structure.  With it being an assisted living, I do agree with Mr. Farmer’s comments about having this living available in the community and it is available on the north end at this time, so it does offer that to the residents, but that is one serious concern and then also the impact it would have on my department as far as how many calls a year we would have to that specific occupancy.  Based off of our current performance with assembly spaces like that, it would yield another 50-75 calls a year which would be representative of about 5-8% of our call volumes.

That’s all I have.  If you want, I can give this report to Mary Beth to send out to all of you.

Council President Saponaro stated, that would be great.  Thank you Chief.  Is there anyone else who wants to speak on this or has a comment?

There were no further comments on Open Portion.


Mr. Marrie stated, it might be a great facility like Jim Farmer said to have that in our Village.  There’s no doubt about that.  But my concern is the fact that, are we opening up Pandora’s Box?  What about everybody else that lives on SOM who want to turn their property into, well I will call it, commercial, other than residential.  That’s my concern.  Are we letting ourselves wide open for a lot of changes along SOM?  I would hate to see it look like Mayfield Road. Thank you.

Council President Saponaro asked, any other Council member or anyone here at the table have any other comments?

Mr. Jerome stated, I have a few questions for them if I could.  Do we have any numbers on how many employees would be in this facility?

Dr. Moyal replied, about 15.

Mr. Jerome asked, any ideas of potential income tax? I am trying to figure out what our income tax revenue could be from this facility.  What would we gain?

Dr. Moyal replied, property tax.

Mr. Jerome asked, what’s the current property tax?  Obviously you don’t know for sure.

Dr. Moyal replied, we have not gotten to the mathematics.  I could get it to you.

Mr. Jerome stated, okay.  We can discuss that. Those are some of the questions.  So you said 52 units. So, they are one-bedroom studios, so I would imagine they are going to be one resident per unit?

Dr. Moyal replied, correct.

Mr. Jerome asked, any numbers on commercial traffic that is going to be added, deliveries, senior trips?  Most of these residents from your research don’t have cars if they are in a facility like this?

Dr. Moyal replied, most residents do not have cars, but they can drive.  Some are independent and drive.  We have a number of parking spots.  It’s not going to be significant traffic.

Mr. Mulle added, most of the parking for this type of facility is used for primarily visitors and staff.  The parking traffic activity for this type of facility is very low.

Mr. Jerome asked, how far will the building front be from SOM Center Road?

Mr. Mulle replied, we have a setback of 40 feet from the property line which is, at this point based on the preliminary information we have, it is difficult to be precise.

Council President Saponaro asked, I thought you said it was 60-80?

Mr. Mulle replied, it’s at least 60 feet from the street.

Mr. Jerome asked, the parking lot is going to be in front of the building?

Mr. Mulle replied, there’s a little bit of parking in front.  There’s a circle drive for drop off.  The majority of the spaces for visitors and staff is to the opposite side between this building and the existing building.

Mr. Jerome asked, the back side?

Mr. Mulle replied, correct.  That’s where the service access would be as well.  The side of the building that faces SOM would be grass, trees, landscaping and just the building façade itself.  There’s no parking or traffic in the front of the building.

Mr. Jerome asked, the circle is going to be not directly in front, the drop-off circle you spoke of?  That would be on the side of it?

Mr. Mulle replied, the building as it is designed faces north.  The side of the building that faces SOM is the west side of the building.  The north side of the building is actually the front so you actually turn off of SOM and head west on that access drive back toward the existing building. It’s along that drive, the front door of this building and that’s where the circle drive is located.  None of that entrance or parking or that kind of activity is on the SOM Center side.  It’s all protected.

Dr. Karfes stated, he just brought up an interesting point because it’s my expectation that they are going to put a stoplight opposite the driveway and Hickory Hill Drive on SOM.  Is there going to be a traffic light put at that intersection?

Council President Saponaro replied, no.

Dr. Karfes stated, sorry.  I thought there was going to be because I thought there was some construction for a stoplight at Hickory Hill and SOM.

Council President Saponaro replied, no.

Dr. Karfes stated, then that changes my mind as far as the traffic pattern from here on SOM.  From Progressive, it’s mayhem.

Council President Saponaro stated, you are thinking of Sandalwood and SOM.

Dr. Karfes stated, thank you.

Mr. Williams asked, how would you compare your proposed facility to Governor’s Village?

Dr. Moyal replied, I think Governor’s Village has got more than an assisted living.  It has assisted living and Alzheimer’s unit and a nursing home.  They don’t just have assisted living.  It is not the level of acuity.  It has three phases, nursing home which is almost like in-patient.  It is a much higher level of care. Assisted living is mostly people who require help and cannot otherwise be home. They require medications and diets and physical therapy.  They are kept safe and sound and healthy.

Mr. Williams asked, from a social standpoint, is there plans for a common community area?

Dr. Moyal replied, there is going to be a common area.  There are going to be activities and trips.  Even social events.  Also, as their physicians, we would be able to go see our patients and talk about diabetes, cholesterol, things of that nature.  It would also be for the community.  They would be a part of it. Good health is good for the community.  It’s good for everybody.  It’s important.

Council President Saponaro stated, thank you.  All that being said, this is a Special Meeting where we would looking for public comment, trying to get information from Mr. Fisher and Dr. Moyal, Mr. Mulle and anyone else that has information on it.  We appreciate it. There is nothing that at this stage, we would not be voting on anything this evening.  At our Regular Council meeting is when this will come before us as a body.  Our understanding and I have given a memo to my fellow Council people to make sure we understand what our task is here, what we are doing here is if Council were to approve the Ordinance, we are not approving the use of it, we are approving it so that it goes to the ballot.  That would be the approval. If we decided that we did not want to partake in that part of the process then Dr. Moyal and Dr. Petroff would have to go to the residents and do an initiative petition and that would be the other way to get it to the ballot.  So, there’s two ways of doing it.  This is something that, we are hearing a lot of stuff on this. Council has to look at their packets and make sure they are reviewing everything and seeing how they want to address this. That’s where we are at. I welcome you all back to our meeting on November 21st which is where we would have this for discussion and vote.

Mr. Jerome stated, I have one more question.  If anybody from Planning and Zoning had any comments, now might be the time.

Council President Saponaro stated, we got that all in our packet.  It’s all laid out.  We have to move forward.  We can do that at the Council meeting.


Mr. Williams, seconded by Mr. Marquardt, made a motion to adjourn.

The meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m.  The next Council meeting is scheduled for Monday, November 21, 2016 at 8:00 p.m. in Civic Hall at the Mayfield Village Civic Center.