Safety and Service: October 5th 2015

Main Conference Room – Mayfield Village Civic Center
Monday, October 5, 2015– 7:00 p.m.

The Safety and Service Committee met on Monday, October 5, 2015 in the Main Conference Room of the Mayfield Village Civic Center. Council President Marrie called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.


Present: Mr. Marrie, Mr. Jerome, and Mr. Saponaro

Also Present: Mrs. Mills, Mr. Williams, Mr. Wynne, Mr. Metzung, Chief Carcioppolo, Chief Edelman, Mr. DiNardo, Mr. Thomas, Mr. Cappello, Mr. Esborn, Mr. Cappello (7:15), Ms. Wolgamuth, and Mrs. Betsa


  • Process for installing street lights at intersection of Metro Park and SOM and Hickory Hill and SOM

Mr. Jerome stated, a resident contacted me about this. SOM Center is widened. Street lights are on the west side of the street.   On the east side of the street we have two neighborhoods, Metro Park and Hickory Hill. The distance between where the street comes in off of SOM and where the street light is is very far. It’s difficult to see the intersection of those streets. What are the possibilities of adding a street light on the other side of SOM at the intersection of these two streets?

Mr. Metzung asked, you are talking about the east side?

Mr. Jerome replied, on the east side.

Mr. Metzung asked, is there a pole over there?

Mr. Jerome replied, Metro Park has a pole. Hickory is behind the yards.

Mr. Cappello asked, a CEI pole?

Mr. Metzung stated, if there’s a CEI pole, they will put lights on if we request it. Back when we did SOM we had done a lighting project. We were going to run them down the center.

Mr. Jerome asked, there’s power there?

Mr. Metzung replied, there’s conduits. It’s all been laid out.

Council President Marrie asked, in the road?

Mr. Metzung replied, in the median, if this is something Council would like to look at.

Council President Marrie asked, look at the two he is talking about and then let us know.

  • Wilson Mills Curve Safety

Mr. Jerome stated, a resident I talked to lives right on the first curve east of SOM. He gets nervous when people come around the turn very fast. He said that even he noticed it as he is driving Wilson Mills towards where we have the speed sensor that those do work. He wanted to see what could be done, either if it’s some reflectors with arrows or something in that first section there or another one of those speed things. If you can, look into the options.

Mr. Saponaro asked, who is he?

Mr. Jerome replied, it’s Karl Kotlan, 6762 Wilson Mills Road.

Council President Marrie stated, the Chief and Doug will look at it and get back to you.

Mr. Jerome replied, thank you.

  • Sidewalk from Village Trails to Hanover Woods

Mr. Jerome introduced Mr. Klatte.

Mr. Klatte
792 Village Trail

This issue has come up before. It would be nice if there was a sidewalk connection. There’s one west of Hanover Woods. Maybe historically Hanover Woods was the first neighborhood there so a sidewalk went up. A lot of residents on Village Circle and Village Trail walk up to Heinen’s. There are people who jog. There are kids there who probably would like to ride their bikes up to the pool in the summer. Because of traffic on Wilson Mills, people are leery to make that connection to the Hanover Woods sidewalk. I spoke with Mr. Jerome and he suggested I bring it up here. We got input from the neighbors who wanted it. Basically everyone did.

Mr. Metzung asked, did you happen to canvass anyone on Wilson Mills?

Mr. Jerome replied, we talked about that. Baby steps. We discussed about taking people’s property. I suggested they talk to the engineer about the potential backlash of taking property even though it’s in the right of way. We decided to start with this and reach out to the people on the street.

Council President Marrie stated, that’s fine, but before we make any decision, the next step is to talk to people on Wilson Mills. I see you got 20-25 signatures. One of them was Carmens. He said go slow here, we have property rights to think about too. I am not against the sidewalk, that’s for sure, but I think you should be careful about taking property rights without at least verbal approval of some kind. That’s the next step. I don’t know very honestly where we would go next other than you start talking to people.

Mr. Metzung replied, I would survey it and come up with a proposal. The other thing I ask the Committee is would you look to improve what’s there? In other words, you know the section from Hanover to Beech Hill is substandard by every measure. It’s four foot wide. Would we look to improve that? Would you like that to be part of the overall scope of what we would be looking at as far as design costs?

Mr. Saponaro replied, if it makes sense, I wouldn’t have a problem with that if you want to look at it from that standpoint.

Council President Marrie stated, some of it’s so bad I would think that we would look at putting the new sidewalk in all the way. Some of it’s really bad. He can’t maintain it.

Mr. Metzung stated, to get down to Village Trail to maintain it in in the winter would become incredibly cumbersome without improving it. You had a question south side/north side. We put it on the south side originally. There’s nothing that says you have to be over there.

Mrs. Mills referred to a sidewalk equalization board from 30 years ago. An ordinance was passed that that sidewalk would remain the way it is from now to eternity.

Mr. Metzung asked, which sidewalk is that?

Mrs. Mills replied, the one you are talking about from Wilson Mills to Hanover. Maybe we ought to try to find that ordinance and see what it’s all about. Alan Bennett was Mayor at that time.

Mr. Metzung stated, we put that in when I got here.

Mrs. Mills replied, I know but you never changed it. You left it the same.

Mr. Metzung stated, that sidewalk from SOM to Beech Hill was there. The sidewalk from Beech Hill to Hanover we installed.

Mrs. Mills stated, the sidewalk from SOM to Beech Hill is the one they passed that ordinance.

Mr. Metzung stated, I believe that’s five foot.

Mrs. Mills stated, people did not want their land taken or touched.

Mr. Metzung stated, I believe that’s five foot, so even if it was left alone or just redone because it’s old and tired, I think it’s five foot which is fine.

Mrs. Mills stated, there’s new owners there since that ordinance was first put in place. Maybe the whole attitude towards improving that sidewalk would be different.

Council President Marrie suggested Doug get a survey.

Mr. Cappello stated, I did a rough cost estimate. This goes back to putting a walk in where people have encroached in the right of way. We are not talking small amounts of encroachment. Just east of Hanover this guy has huge pine trees and trees literally 10-12 feet off the edge of the road. There’s a ditch. Where am I going to put my walk? I would have to put a catch basin someplace.

Council President Marrie suggested Doug and Tom do the survey.

Mr. Jerome asked, should Mr. Klatte be included?

Mr. Metzung replied, no, because what we are going to have to do is go out and survey it. Tommy can give you a guess. What is that number Tom?

Mr. Cappello replied, $170,000 roughly. That’s ballpark. It does not include Hanover to Beech Hill or Beech Hill to SOM.

Mr. Metzung stated, we will do that and come up with that.

Mr. Jerome suggested work be done on that and we kind of wait in the wings.

Council President Marrie thanked Mr. Klatte for taking the time to get the signatures and letting us know.


  • Street Striping – 2015

Mr. Metzung stated, Pat Flowers was once again the lowest bidder.

Council President Marrie stated, he is always the lowest and he does a good job, doesn’t he?

Mr. Metzung replied, yes.

Mr. Wynne agreed. He always comes in under his bid.

Council President Marrie agreed. And he does a good job. We move that on.

Mr. Metzung stated, I am not asking for Council to approve this per se, but I don’t know that Council has any issues. With the weather being what it is this time of year, if he were to go ahead and start the work.

Council President Marrie suggested a straw vote be taken. Straw vote approved by: Mr. Marrie, Mr. Saponaro, Mr. Jerome, Mrs. Mills, Mr. Williams.


  • Increase in manpower

Chief Edelman referenced the e-mail to Council advising of the need for increase in manpower. One of the main reasons has to do with the Affordable Care Act and the part-timers going down to 29 hours a week creating holes in the schedule and making it harder to retain the part-timers who cannot live on only 29 hours a week. Ron and I are working on the details of the final numbers. I will be asking Council to consider increasing the full-time manpower for 2016.

Additional discussion is scheduled during Executive Session at the Regular Meeting of Council on October 19th.


Council President Marrie asked, any other matters? There were none.

There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 7:30 p.m. The next Safety and Service Committee meeting is scheduled for Monday, November 2, 2015 at 7:00 p.m. in Reserve Hall at the Mayfield Village Civic Center.

Respectfully submitted,

Mary E. Betsa, CMC
Clerk of Council