Safety and Service: November 2nd 2015

Main Conference Room – Mayfield Village Civic Center
Monday, November 2, 2015 – 7:00 p.m.

The Safety and Service Committee met on Monday, November 2, 2015 in the Main Conference Room of the Mayfield Village Civic Center. Mr. Marrie called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.


Present: Mr. Marrie and Mr. Saponaro

Also Present: Mrs. Mills, Mr. Williams, Mr. Wynne, Mr. Metzung, Chief Carcioppolo, Chief Edelman, Mr. DiNardo, Mr. Thomas, Mr. Esborn, Ms. Wolgamuth, and Mrs. Betsa


  • Audible traffic signals at some intersections

Chief Edelman reported, I received a call from a resident buying a house on SOM across from the apartments who is blind. She was concerned about crossing SOM to get to Heinen’s.

Mr. Marrie asked, by Seneca?

Chief Edelman replied, yes. She asked about the possibility of having audible traffic signals. A couple of years ago, my father was instrumental in doing that at Lyndhurst. He received a grant from NOACA to pay for that. Ted is helping me with the research on this.

I think it’s something that is happening more and more in cities throughout the area. It’s not just for blind people, but for the elderly, basically for people who sit at the traffic light and don’t pay attention. This is one of those things I think acting sooner rather than later is probably to our benefit and helps out more of our residents all the better.

I am not asking Council to do anything about this right away. I would like to do some more research as far as funding and the actual engineering of this. I have a call in to Signal Service and they are going to look into it for me. They are the ones who did the work in Lyndhurst. I wanted to bring it to Council’s attention that this is something on our radar. I probably won’t have further information until around the first of the year.

Mr. Marrie replied, I think it’s a wonderful idea. Would you put them on every intersection?

Chief Edelman replied, no. I would figure probably SOM and Aintree, SOM and Wilson Mills and Wilson Mills and Beta. Those are the three main intersections that will get the most pedestrian traffic.

Mrs. Mills stated, we are getting more and more walkers too.

Mr. Marrie stated, it’s funny you mentioned Seneca. There are a lot coming back from Church in the morning crossing there.

Mrs. Mills asked, isn’t that high accident area too?

Chief Edelman replied, not in the morning. You have to remember that people are paying less and less attention. You look right and left in an intersection and can see people texting, talking on the phone, not paying attention. Having something like this could give someone a wake-up call to make things easier for our residents. I think it’s a good idea and something we should look into.

Mr. Marrie agreed. I think it’s money well spent.

Chief Edelman stated, this is not something I have on our 5-year projection. Ron, I will have to talk to you about that closer to the first of the year. It’s one of those things that came up. I really had not thought much about it until I got a call from this resident. I told her I would look into it.

Mr. Marrie stated, better we look into it and/or do it before something happens than after the fact. I would like to see you go ahead and do it.

Chief Edelman stated, we will continue to look into it.

Mr. Esborn stated, you have Signal Service. I have TMS.

Chief Edelman replied, TMS is the Engineer.

Mr. Esborn stated, NOACA has them listed as the consultant on this project for Lyndhurst. Because we have a good relationship with TMS, we will talk to them about how they work with Lyndhurst and with NOACA. What I know is that NOACA does their funding allocations on a quarterly basis. There’s a deadline of December 1st which might be tight but then another one, March 1st that if we have a study, it might be better. We will just keep moving forward. We will be able to talk to TMS further about what they were able to do and how much they got involved in the allocation.

Mrs. Mills asked, do you know approximately what the cost of something like that is?

Chief Edelman replied, ballpark, about $20,000 per intersection.

Mrs. Mills stated, only $20,000 to save a life or two. It’s a no-brainer.

Mr. Esborn stated, the total cost for Lyndhurst was $73,000. This is for signals at Mayfield and Brainard, Richmond and Winchester. Total cost was $73,000, NOACA paid $58,000.

Mr. DiNardo asked, when you say audible, it’s actual sound? I don’t ever hear that sound at Mayfield and Brainard.

Chief Edelman stated, we will keep that in mind. I will keep you posted as we move along.

Mrs. Mills stated, that’s wonderful. That’s a good idea.

Mr. Marrie agreed. Any other comments?   There were none.


Mr. Marrie asked, any other matters?

Mrs. Mills asked, how did the road closure go Saturday?

Chief Edelman replied, no problems at all. It went smoothly. There was one person who came up and asked why we didn’t put out a Code Red. We did send notices out. It was not appropriate for a Code Red.

Mr. Marrie stated, it was well-handled.

Chief Edelman stated, we did not send out a Code Red because it wasn’t an emergency.

Mr. Marrie asked, anything else anyone wants to bring up? There were no further matters.

There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 7:08 p.m. The next Safety and Service Committee meeting is scheduled for Monday, December 7, 2015 at 7:00 p.m. in the Main Conference Room at the Mayfield Village Civic Center.

Respectfully submitted,

Mary E. Betsa, CMC

Clerk of Council