Safety and Service - February 3rd 2014

Monday, February 3, 2014 at 7:15 p.m.
Main Conference Room - Mayfield Village Civic Center

The Safety and Service Committee met on Monday, February 3, 2014 in the Main Conference Room at the Mayfield Village Civic Center.  Mr. Marrie called the meeting to order at 7:15 p.m.

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Present: Mr. Marrie and Mr. Jerome

Also Present: Dr. Parker, Mr. Wynne, Lieutenant Jablonski, Chief Carcioppolo, Mr. Metzung, Mr. Dinardo, Ms. Wolgamuth, Mr. Esborn and Mrs. Betsa


Mr. Jerome nominated Mr. Marrie as Chairman of the Safety and Service Committee. There was no opposition.


Driveway at the Library

Mr. Metzung stated, this item was brought to us from our new Councilman Mr. Jerome.  I will leave the floor to him.

Mr. Jerome has had maybe a handful of residents who live over in that area across the street, Kenwood North. They don’t like going out that way anyways, but it seems since the Library went in, they won’t even pull out that way.  They go all the way around to the light. They don’t want anything to do with that intersection.  I had one guy who lives close to SOM who told me that he pays attention and has seen near accidents a couple of times with people not knowing where to go, pulling over in other lanes. 

Mr. Marrie asked, you mean people going to the Library?

Mr. Jerome replied, yes, going to the Library. It is creating an issue with people trying to get out of Hickory because of cars that don’t know where to go. It’s also creating an issue in keeping the flow of traffic.  Driving down SOM, I have seen a couple dangerous situations.  I went to the Library last week and I witnessed it myself.  It’s a screwy situation there.  I don’t know what has been looked in to, but it seems like we need to go at it, cut the median back and add a turning lane so people can actually pull into it and avoid a possible accident.

Mr. Marrie asked, both directions?

Mr. Jerome replied, going from Hickory there is room for a car to pull in there but it’s not marked, but from the other way heading SOM Center north.

Dr. Parker asked, how wide is the median?

Mr. Metzung replied, 14 foot I believe.

Dr. Parker asked, how wide is a typical turning lane?

Mr. Dinardo replied, 12.

Mr. Jerome stated, we could cut the median back.  I don’t know how much or how long.

Mr. Dinardo stated, that’s the question, how long?

Mr. Marrie asked Lieutenant Jablonski, safety-wise, what do you think?

Lieutenant Jablonski replied, we could probably be able to stack 3 or 4 cars 30 or 40 feet.

Mr. Marrie asked, do you agree with it?

Lieutenant Jablonski replied, absolutely.

Mr. Jerome stated, I would hate to lose the median. There’s some trees there, but the problem is never going to go away. We need to go at it.  Ron, what were your thoughts?

Mr. Dinardo replied, I agree with you. As a resident, I agree with you 100%.

Dr. Parker asked, any alternatives?

Mr. Metzung replied, there’s no alternatives. You either create some space or you don’t.

Mr. Marrie stated, let’s go ahead and do it then.

Mr. Metzung added, I have seen issues, but I don’t know. They don’t complain to me.

Lieutenant Jablonski stated, there’s no way to get in to the turn lane, so they are stopping in the left lane.

Mr. Dinardo asked, should a minor traffic study be performed?

Mr. Marrie replied, let’s just start by putting it in first.

Ms. Wolgamuth stated, when this was on the agenda, I called Chief Edelman on Friday.  He just said that he thought that without a traffic light, he wouldn’t recommend a turning lane.  He didn’t say why, he just said he wouldn’t recommend it without a light there.

Mr. Marrie stated, we have got other turns that don’t have a light.

Mr. Dinardo stated, I don’t think it warrants a traffic signal.

Mr. Marrie stated, neither do I.

Mr. Dinardo asked, do you think DOT will let you put one in?

Mr. Marrie stated, why don’t we just go ahead and start by agreeing to go ahead and put the cut in.

Mr. Metzung stated, why don’t we have Tommy do an engineer review?

Dr. Parker agreed.

Mr. Marrie stated, I understand that.

Dr. Parker stated, I think you need to recommend that and then have Finance take a look at it once we have the numbers.

Mr. Marrie stated, that’s what I meant.  Let’s get this thing moving.

Mr. Jerome stated, that’s my opinion too.  I don’t see any other solution.

Mr. Marrie stated, honestly, I did not realize it created that much of a problem, but you are saying you have had a lot of misses.

Mr. Jerome stated, people tell me. I have witnessed it. I was in it the other day. 

Mr. Marrie stated, okay.  That’s what we will do then. Go ahead and get some prices.  Have Tommy look at it.  I assume we would have to put it out to bid. Put it out to bid and we will give it to Finance.

Mr. Metzung stated, maybe it’s something that if we choose to go forward, we will put it in the road program. That’s the best time to do it. That’s when you are getting your biggest bang for the buck.

Mr. Dinardo stated, a three or four car stack should be fine.

Mr. Metzung stated, I don’t think you need nearly that.

Mr. Marrie stated, I think if you had two or three, that would be more than enough.

Lieutenant Jablonski stated, as long as it is far enough so you can actually get in to it.  When people don’t know the Library’s there, they are slamming their brakes on the left turn lane and then they are going over and their tail end is sticking out. There have been numerous close calls.

Mr. Marrie stated, okay. You will talk to Tommy?

Mr. Metzung replied, yes.  Tommy and I will get it put together pretty quickly.

Mr. Marrie stated, okay. Any other questions?  There were none. Any other topics? There were none.

There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 7:28 p.m.  The next Safety and Service meeting is scheduled for Monday, March 3, 2014 in the Main Conference Room of the Mayfield Village Civic Center.

Respectfully submitted,

Mary E. Betsa,
Clerk of Council