D&I - August 3rd 2015

Meeting of Monday, August 3, 2015

The Drainage & Infrastructure Committee met on Monday, August 3, 2015 in the Mayfield Village Civic Hall.  Mr. Jerome called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.

Present: Tom Cappello (Engineer), Steve Jerome (Council Representative), Tom Marrie (Council Representative), Doug Metzung (Service Director), Joe Saponaro (Council Representative), and Mary Betsa (For Committee Secretary Susan Jerome)

Absent: Jerry Catalano (Resident Representative) and Tom Marsalis (Resident Representative)

Also in Attendance: Mr. and Mrs. Batcheller (6784 Wilson Mills)

Opening Comments

Sandy Batcheller
6784 Wilson Mills

Regarding our backyard situation, I talked to our neighbor behind us, Mrs. Eisenberg and she did agree to let us do what Tom was going to do.

Mr. Cappello stated, we went out and looked at it and came up with a potential solution. Instead of trying to go out the front which was impossible, from our survey information we were able to determine that we could run a 6 inch pipe from the low area with a catch basin in the grading and about 250 feet of pipe to the south of which I would say to get to the swale, about 20-30 feet is on the Eisenberg’s property. We have to go underneath the fence and tie into the swale. That would give us positive drainage.

Mr. Saponaro stated, that also benefits one of their neighbors as well, no?  I thought the water would benefit more than that.

Mr. Marrie stated, that’s what I did to.

Mrs. Batcheller stated, I am not sure, but I think the one on the east side. They have low land too.

Mr. Marrie asked, she gave permission?  We need it in writing.

Mr. Cappello stated, we have a proposal from Mike Anselmo for $7,500.  It will be interesting to get the equipment back there.  It ranges from 18 inches to 4 feet back to 0 at the hump in the back yard.  It’s shallow here and then gets a little deeper at the hump and then goes back to being shallow.

Mr. Saponaro stated, looking at the map you can see clearly where the swale would be that you would go into, right?

Mr. Cappello replied, yes. 

Mr. Saponaro stated, for the record, I am looking at a map that is showing the old flood plain.  6783 is the Eisenbergs.  We do not have any applications for neighbors?

Mrs. Batcheller replied, not that I am aware of.

Mr. Saponaro asked, what does your yard look like right now?

Mr. Marrie asked, do you have water in it right now?

Mrs. Batcheller replied, there’s no water now because it hasn’t rained.  It’s dried and cracked.

Mr.  Cappello stated, the plan is to put a basin 6 inches lower than the existing grade. Part of the quote is to regrade the low spot.  If it rains really heavy, you are going to get water. It is going to go back down quickly.

Mr. Jerome asked, what did we do in 2006?

Mr. Cappello replied, that was something else.

Mr. Jerome stated, installation of storm sewer at 6784 Wilson Mills.

Mr. Metzung stated, we went along the side of the house to the back corner of the garage.

Mr. Cappello stated, this is further to the south.

Mr. Saponaro asked, do you have an acre?

Mrs. Batcheller replied, half.

Mr. Jerome asked, this is almost towards the back?

Mr. Saponaro replied, yes.  It’s at the very back.

Mr. Cappello stated, it’s about 250 feet from the back property line.  This area is about 50 feet from the back of your house.  You go about another 50 feet or so and it’s woodlands.

Mr. Jerome asked, was there an existing swale?

Mrs. Batcheller replied, no.

Mr. Cappello stated, there is a defined swale ditch.  That’s actually off of her property. The ground doesn’t drain that way.

Mr. Saponaro stated, this is not going to cause any water to go to the neighbor’s property either because it’s going to catch it and direct it towards the swale.

Mr. Marrie asked, has that always been that way?

Mrs. Batcheller replied, it’s accumulated over the years.  It seems like the past couple years it has gotten worse and worse.

Mr. Cappello stated, I have looked at some of these properties. Every time you look at them, there are larger trees in these areas and the root structure pops up over time. 

Mr. Metzung stated, water used to flow across their property and not in the neighbor’s property but now there is a woodline.

Mr. Saponaro asked, so the water has changed the grade and therefore now it is accumulating more?

Mr. Jerome stated, has anyone else from Wilson Mills officially complained?  Do you guys know of any other people?

Mr. Batcheller replied, the neighbors to the west side.  They are higher.

Mr. Cappello stated, if they are higher, there may be a possibility that the line could run to the neighbors.

Mr. Jerome stated, at this point it will take care of their issues.

Mr. Cappello stated if the neighbors have an issue, we would have the infrastructure there.

Mr. Marrie asked, you could tie in to that, correct?

Mr. Cappello stated, if that is the case.

Mr. Saponaro stated, so we have created a solution that could be a multi-purpose one if need be.  If water at some point was directed onto your yard, it would also be caught and taken care of.

Mrs. Batcheller stated, Mrs. Eisenberg’s main issue was that you would fix the fence.  She said they would need to go and clean the creek out and make sure nothing is thrown into the creek. I guaranteed it.

Mr. Cappello stated, they will take care of it.

Mr. Jerome stated, this should have been added to the agenda.  We will have to get Mrs. Eisenberg’s permission in writing.  At this point can we approve it?

Mr. Saponaro replied, we can approve it.

Mr. Marrie stated, based on getting the written permission.

Mr. Jerome stated, then we will get it on to Finance Caucus tonight. We have been discussing this for over a year so it’s not anything new.

Mrs. Batcheller asked, how does this work?

Mr. Jerome replied, you would be responsible for 10%.  If you wanted to do anything additional, then you would take it from there.

Motion to approve expenditure in the amount of $7,500 for 6584 Wilson Mills.

Mr. Saponaro, seconded by Mr. Marrie, made a motion to approve expenditure in the amount of $7,500 for 6584 Wilson Mills. 

Roll Call:        

AYES: All        
NAYS: None                                

Motion Carried. Expenditure Approved.

Mr. and Mrs. Batcheller thanked the Committee.

Mr. Jerome stated, this item will now go on to Finance and Caucus for discussion.

Status Reports

Mr. Christian – 510 SOM Center Road

Mr. Metzung reported, we did not go into Mr. Christian’s house.  I really think he can be removed from this Committee unless you want to keep it on to keep an eye on it.  I don’t think it is going to be something that is going to be covered by this Committee.  It’s going to be covered on property that’s owned by the Village or it might be Progressive in the back there.  Not his property per se of creating a swale.

Mr. Jerome asked, how do we proceed? You guys are going to look internally?

Mr. Metzung replied, we will have to look internally.

Mr. Marrie asked, so we drop it off this one?

Mr. Metzung replied, leave it on there so you can follow it and keep track of it.  I don’t think it’s going to be an expenditure through this Committee.

Mr. Jerome asked, how soon do you think?  In the next couple months?

Mr. Metzung stated, this shouldn’t be too long.

Mr. Jerome stated, let’s keep it on to monitor it.

Mr. Metzung stated, the area behind him is a wetland. It’s a big old wetland. Until now you couldn’t get back there.  Sometime in August we should be able to get a piece of equipment back there.

Mr. Marrie stated, we will put it on hold for now.

Mr. Saponaro stated, let’s leave it on Old Business just for update.

New Application:

Mr. and Mrs. Fairchild – 6786 Seneca

Mr. Metzung stated, you should have been e-mailed their application with the picture.

Mr. Cappello replied, that one is pretty simple.  It’s not going to be too costly.  You have to rate the application but as far as a solution, it’s not going to be extensive.

Mr. Metzung stated, it will be almost the same as the Batchellers but the drainage swale is right next to the house.

Mr. Marrie asked, do you need to get a quote on this?

Mr. Metzung stated, you are probably looking at a couple thousand.

Mr. Cappello replied, if that.

Mr. Metzung stated, water enters her swale, enters her property and then gets trapped.

Mr. Saponaro asked, have we assessed to see how many properties it affects?

Mr. Metzung stated, it affects just hers.  There’s a bend in the swale.

Mr. Saponaro asked, in terms of safety or hazard or health issues?

Mr. Metzung stated, I don’t think it’s getting to her house any time soon.

Mr. Saponaro asked, do we think it is minimal?  None?  Moderate?

Mr. Cappello replied, there are mosquito problems.

Mr. Saponaro asked, so it could increase?  How about property damage?

Mr. Metzung stated, it’s quite away from her home.

Mr. Saponaro asked, it’s minimal at this point?

Mr. Metzung replied, yes.

Mr. Saponaro asked, the topographical nuisance?

Mr. Metzung replied, you have a creek and what appears to be the area that is sunk so when the water does raise up and goes into her backyard, it just sits.

Mr. Saponaro asked, so is it more moderate or severe?

Mr. Metzung replied, it’s kind of moderate.  I am guessing it’s the creek that is causing the water.

Mr. Cappello stated, when you get an inch or two of rain, it does not have anywhere to go.

Mr. Jerome asked, is any of it true about when Stone Creek went in?

Mr. Metzung replied, no.

Mr. Saponaro stated, we are basically at a 10.  We should at least get a quote on that.

Mr. Jerome stated, why don’t we get a quote on it and see what it might cost and see if we want to proceed.  Is this sketch correct that she sent in? There’s a swale behind her fence?

Mr. Marrie replied, behind the fence. It’s past her property.

Schedule Next Meeting Date

Mr. Jerome stated, let us schedule a meeting next month before Caucus, Tuesday, September 8th to discuss update on Batchellers, Fairchild and any other matter which may come up. 

Any Other Matters

Mr. Jerome asked, are there any other matters?  There were none.  There being no further matters, the

meeting adjourned at 6:55 p.m.

Respectfully submitted,

Mary Betsa

For Susan Jerome, Committee Secretary