ARB - April 9th 2015
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
April 9, 2015
The Architectural Review Board met in regular session on Thurs, April 9, 2015 at 7:30 p.m. at the Mayfield Village Civic Center Conference Room. Chairman DiNardo presided.
Present: Mr. Ron DiNardo (Chairman), Mr. Joshua Klein (Chairman Pro-Tem), Mr. Ivo Tombazzi, and Mr. Carmen Miozzi
Absent: Mrs. MaryAnn Wervey
Also Present: Mr. John Marrelli (Building Commissioner) and Ms. Deborah Garbo (Secretary)
CONSIDERATION OF MEETING MINUTES: March 26th, 2015
Mr. Miozzi, seconded by Mr. Tombazzi made a motion to approve the minutes of March 26, 2015.
Ayes: Mr. DiNardo, Mr. Klein, Mr. Tombazzi, Mr. Miozzi
Motion Carried. Minutes Approved As Written.
John & Jennifer Jurcisek
721 Robley Ln.
Bishop Construction, LLC
- Ground Sign
National Testing Labs
6571 Wilson Mills Rd.
721 Robley Ln
Chairman DiNardo called the meeting to order beginning with proposal #1.
Dan Bishop, Bishop Construction introduced himself. We’re looking at putting a second floor addition on the house; kid’s bedroom and 2nd floor bathroom. The first step I took was to try to find a place to put it on the ground floor, but with lot trees and property lines, and taking everything into consideration, the only way to do this was up.
Mr. Marrelli asked if there’re any other two-story houses on the street.
Dan Bishop said yes, but I didn’t take any pictures. There are quite a few of them. I don’t know how many were original, but there’s been additions down the street of second floors.
John Jurcisek confirmed. Two houses down from me re-built their house and it’s a second story.
Chairman DiNardo said you’ve called out architectural shingle. What are we doing with the existing roof and how old is it?
Dan Bishop replied, it’s at least a 25/yr shingle. Entire roof will be replaced. It’ll be a 30-yr CertainTeed, brown. Before we get started, I’ll bring in samples of shingles, siding, shutters & brick. The brick chimney we’ll extend, take it up two feet, match it as existing. Everything on the house is brick currently. There’s siding planned on part of the house, just the part we’re going to re-do. No siding exists now. We’ll get a siding obviously that would go with the brick.
Chairman DiNardo said the design is easy enough, but we need samples.
Dan Bishop states, I didn’t believe that was necessary at this time. Before we get started, we’ll bring in all appropriate samples for approval.
Mr. Marrelli suggested applicant come back to the next meeting, 4/23 with samples.
Chairman DiNardo agreed. We’ll go through the design now then you can bring in samples next meeting. Does anyone have any issue with the design intent of raising it?
There was no issue.
Chairman DiNardo feels it fits in with the existing proportions. Roof slopes all match up nice.
Dan Bishop said windows to match. We’re thinking of replacing the existing shutters to match the new ones. Soffits & gutters will be white, fascia’s the same.
Chairman DiNardo asked about gutters & drainage.
Dan Bishop replied, I’d like to get them down to the first floor, then use a couple locations of 6” downspouts and tie them into the gutters.
Mr. Marrelli asked, bedroom windows will be escape size?
Dan Bishop replied yes, proper egress. Windows, we like to use the Anderson tilt-wash double hung.
Chairman DiNardo said that’s an awkward transition between the siding and brick.
Dan Bishop said first you have to make sure you have the right color and two, you make sure you’re trimming the edges and blending it in properly. Not too many people take the time to do it right.
Chairman DiNardo summarizes what applicant needs to being to the next meeting;
- Shingles; color & manufacturer
- Siding; color & manufacturer
- Shutters color.
- Masonry sample
Mr. Miozzi asked, are the two chimney tops going to match?
Dan Bishop said the one chimney will get extended. The big one in the back may or may not have to be. We just want to make sure there’s a good draw with that chimney with the fireplace that’s in there. Currently it looks like it will be far enough away. If it affects the draw from the fireplace, we’ll raise it up. Basically, you don’t even see the one in the back. If we need to change the detail on the top to match, we will.
Mr. Miozzi states chimney top detail should be similar.
Mr. Marrelli asked about construction drawings.
Dan Bishop said plumbing & electrical contractors will submit their own drawings.
Mr. Marrelli asked, are you going to have them put it on their drawings so we can approve it before they start? We’ve got smoke detectors to worry about, carbon monoxide, the right kind of plugs, circuits. The heating & A/C, they have to figure out how they’re going to chase that duct work up there.
Dan Bishop replied, they were going to do that after, but we can make sure we do that ahead of time.
Chairman DiNardo said Ivo questioned the section cut on Pg #8. Is the 2nd floor finish floor to ceiling less than 1st floor? Visually it looks smaller.
Dan Bishop said the height of the 2nd floor will be a finished 8’. Mr. Marrelli said the 1st floor is probably the same height.
Drawings preliminary approved as discussed.
Applicant to return next meeting date 4/23 with colors & samples.
National Testing Labs
6571 Wilson Mills Rd.
Chairman DiNardo moves onto proposal #2. Sam, are you replacing the sign in the same location?
Sam Costiuc, President/Owner Signarama-Mayfield introduced himself. We’re re-using the posts, basically wrapping the posts in an aluminum cap. We’re not digging anything. We’re just making a new cabinet that goes over the top. It’ll be made in pieces and put together in the field. It won’t be lit. I don’t know if there are lights on the ground. Color will be burgundy red, it’s all wood, it’ll be custom painted.
Mr. Marrelli asked if he can get the color to match the brick on the building.
Sam Costiuc replied, we offered the customer a few color options, brown was one.
Board recommends the dark red color, closer to burgundy versus a fire engine red.
Sam Costiuc said the panels will be thin sheet aluminum panels and individual letters. The panels come off.
Mr. Marrelli asked, how close to the ground will the bottom be?
Sam Costiuc said our material is 60”, that’s what our sheets come in. You probably won’t see the bottom.
Mr. Miozzi asked, are you capping in between the posts at the bottom. Sam said we can.
Mr. Marrelli suggested capping at the bottom, then you won’t have to worry about condensation.
Chairman DiNardo states, there’s no issue with the font or color; black letters on white.
Mr. Klein, seconded by Mr. Miozzi made a motion to approve the ground sign for National Testing Labs at 6571 Wilson Mills Rd as noted.
- Color modified to a dark red burgundy
Ayes: Mr. DiNardo, Mr. Klein, Mr. Tombazzi, Mr. Miozzi
Motion Carried. Drawings Approved As Noted.
NEXT MEETING START TIME
Due to conflict in schedules, consensus is to start the April 23rd meeting at 7:00 vs. 7:30 p.m.
Chairman DiNardo said I brought up at our last Charter Review meeting about giving authority to our Building Commissioner to vote at ARB in the case where we didn’t have a quorum. I got a little feedback from the members. We tabled it for future discussion. This would be something that would change the Charter, the ability of the Bldg Commissioner to have a vote, unless we do it as an ordinance.
Mr. Marrelli thinks you have to change the Charter. Another idea would be to have an alternate.
Chairman DiNardo said that was discussed. An alternate is like a person on call. Does he/she come to every meeting? I don’t think that would work. John, you’re definitely qualified, you’re certified in all the things from the Board of Building Standards, plus you’re involved in Planning Commission. The shift in power may be the question.
Mr. Marrelli said it would only be in the case of an emergency that I would vote.
Mr. Tombazzi thinks years back, that Gus Amendola voted.
Mr. Marrelli said the way it’s written, I’m supposed to be on the Board, but it doesn’t say that I have the authority to vote.
Mr. Klein said if your description is no different than our description, then you would have no different rights than us. It doesn’t specifically say that you don’t vote, unless it specifically says that we do vote, then you’re the same as we are.
Mr. Marrelli said the Beta Center on Beta Dr is 3 buildings. It’s mostly production companies making parts, we have a construction company in there. When you drive by, you don’t know who is in that complex. There’s a sign in the front that says; Beta Center. When you pull in, you go door to door and see their names on the windows. Planning Commission has approved a cheerleading school. Today I got an e-mail from their project manager that they want an illuminated sign on the outside of the building. This complex was not built to have signs over every door of every business.
I’m going to ask them to bring in like I did with Panzica’s building, a whole program so we have uniformity. As they come in for conditional use permits, each occupant’s going to want their own sign. I’m pretty sure once the cheerleading school puts a sign on their building, the dance studio’s going to want a sign on their building. You know how that goes. I could be wrong but probably not. Either way, you can’t have one sign on 3 buildings looking out of place, it has to be uniform.
We need a Master Plan from the building owner like we did at Musca Plaza and Panzica’s building, same size sign, same outline.
If every multi-tenant building allowed each tenant to put their own sign up, all these buildings would be full of signs. We have to attack it like a complex.
This cheerleading school, Royal Cheer Athletics is on the Council agenda 4/20 to confirm Planning Commission’s recommendation of the conditional use. They’re ready to go. They want to open by May 1st. They’ll probably put a temporary sign on the lawn in the meantime.
Mr. Marrelli said I just wanted to let you know how I was approaching this.
Use Change - Charter Review
Chairman DiNardo said one of the items at Charter Review was the ability for P & Z to be able to change the Use in a commercial area. We’re requesting that the voters vote on that. We’re still vetting it out with an opinion from the Law Dept.
Mr. Miozzi asked, what if it’s retail office space and they want a trucking warehouse? Would Planning Commission approve that?
Mr. Marrelli replied, they could. That’s why the conditional use permits are good in a way. Each applicant has to come in and make their case and show why they’re good for the Village, why there’s a need, how much money they’ll bring in with taxes, etc. We’ve had a number of CUP applicants withdraw because they knew they weren’t going. For example somebody taking 100,000 sq ft and putting trampolines in with three employees.
Chairman DiNardo said if you allow a change of use they have to meet certain criteria. The Charter will just give them the power to do it. They’d have to formalize it with an ordinance.
Mr. Marrelli states, it’s a slippery slope. An example is Deacons. Deacons had to go to the voters to spread his car dealership down two residential lots. Had the Planning Commission had the authority to change the zoning and approve that, he wouldn’t have had to do that. I’m not so sure if it would have been more or less resisted by the public. The way it turned out, he sold his project to the whole town and everybody liked it. It makes things real nice when you know everybody’s on board. When the Planning Commission just says we’re going to change it, that sometimes rubs people the wrong way.
Chairman DiNardo said that was residential zoned to commercial. We’re not asking for that to change. We’re just asking the ability for Planning Commission to be able to change the Use for currently zoned commercial property on a parcel by parcel basis if it fits the criteria. My thought process is that at least something could happen on Beta. Residential to commercial would still have to go to referendum vote.
Mr. Klein said mixed-use is everywhere, like little cities.
Mr. Marrelli said Crocker Park has residential & commercial.
Chairman DiNardo notes the new project across from Ahuja Med Center in Orange is all mixed-use, i.e. office, retail component, restaurants, residential. I’ve been living here for 25 years, I think it’s the right thing to do for our community. It gives our Boards the ability to do the right thing.
Mr. Marrelli said the alternative is to expand the zoning code so those uses are permitted. We started down that road with Ted & David Hartt. What happens is, when you start touching one part of the zoning code, it gets involved in everything. It got complicated.
There being no further business, Mr. Klein, seconded by Mr. Tombazzi made a motion to adjourn the meeting.
Motion Carried. Meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m.