ARB - February 13th 2014

ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
Mayfield
Village
Feb 13, 2014

The Architectural Review Board met in regular session on Thurs, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:30 p.m. at the Mayfield Village Civic Center Conference Room. Chairman Dinardo presided.

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ROLL CALL

Present: Mr. Ron Dinardo (Chairman), Mr. Joshua Klein (Chairman Pro-Tem), and Mr. Carmen Miozzi

Absent:  Mr. Ivo Tombazzi and Mrs. MaryAnn Wervey

Also Present: Mr. John Marrelli (Building Commissioner) and Ms. Deborah Garbo (Secretary)

CONSIDERATION OF MEETING MINUTES: Jan 9, 2014

Mr. Miozzi, seconded by Mr. Klein made a motion to approve the minutes of Jan 9, 2014.         

ROLL CALL

Ayes: Mr. Dinardo, Mr. Klein, Mr. Miozzi                            
Nays: None                                         

Motion Carried. Minutes Approved As Written. 

2014 ORGANIZATIONAL:

  • Election of Chairman
  • Election of Chairman Pro Tem
  • Secretary

 

Note: Organizational Meeting postponed until all Board Members in attendance.

PROPOSALS:

  1. Renovation & Addition
    Edward & Karen Bogomolny
    844 Hardwood Ct
    Bialosky & Partners Architects
    (Revisions from ARB 12/12/13)
  2. Sun Room Addition
    Gary & Peggy Streiff
    953 Kenwood Dr.
    Great Day Improvement

 

OPEN PORTION:

Chairman Dinardo called the meeting to order beginning with first proposal. They’re back with revisions from our ARB mtg back in December.

Edward & Karen Bogomolny
Renovation & Addition
844 Hardwood Ct
(Revisions from ARB 12/12/13)

Jill Christoff Assoc. AIA, NCIDQ with Bialosky & Partners introduced herself. Following up on your comments from the last meeting, one main concern was the columns. We ended up going to a single column, made it heavier and added a bracket element to more so go with the tutor style house. Another comment was to add a railing to the top, which we did and agreed with and we think it looks great. We removed the bottom railing per your recommendation, and agreed with that. We solved the roof drainage issue by adding a cricket. Now the water drains to a downspout here. The roof slopes in 3 directions and there’s also another downspout here. That should solve the drainage issue. Last comment was the porch.   

Mr. Marrelli asked the height of the porch to the grade.

Jill Christoff replied, 2 steps, about 1 foot.

Chairman refers to the tie-in on the south side, the existing brick to new. How are you going to do that?

Jill Christoff replied it’ll be toothed-in.

Chairman asked if they’ve gone to a brick supplier to see if they can match the brick.

Jill Christoff replied no, we haven’t gone to one yet. We’ll be doing that through the contractor once one is selected. We’ll have enough existing brick coming down that we’ll be able to salvage.

Chairman said o.k., it’s strictly at the tie-in because you want it to be seamless and not look like an addition.

Jill Christoff said the columns we’re staining to match existing.

Chairman shared some internet sample photos of what you see in a tutor; for the railing at the top. I want to offer this suggestion to add a little more detail.

Jill Christoff is familiar with the style of railing in the photos and has done studies for them. 

Chairman brings attention to the photo showing a top & bottom rail.

Jill Christoff said the hesitation with adding a bottom rail is that it’ll make the axes a little smaller.

Mr. Miozzi suggests reinforcement underneath the top one all the way across. The only thing about using just a 2 x 4 on top and not one vertical underneath it, it would eventually sag. To where a 2 x 4 underneath the cap one, and a 2 x 4 in front of it and the axes just behind it, it would alleviate the sag in the middle which would eventually happen. It will also make that a little more beefier. Jill will propose that to the homeowner.   

Chairman asked about shingles. Jill replied shingles to match. The roof’s about 10 years old.

Chairman brings attention to a detail; something doesn’t add up with your joists at the entry of the new door. You’re calling out 2 x 6 and I don’t think that’s going to work out if you’re going to have a 1 ½” or 2” step at the door from the porch elevation. You may want to use a 2 x 8. Jill will double check that.

CODE REVIEW

Mr. Marrelli states, I have not done the code review yet on the electrical or plumbing.

Jill Christoff said we have a ceiling plan with switching in it. We’ve requested with the contractors that they also submit any additional drawings that you need. We should be selecting a contractor in the next couple weeks.

Chairman Dinardo thanked Jill for coming back with the modifications per the Board’s recommendations. You did a great job.

Jill Christoff said it helped a lot. We plan on starting construction mid March.

DECISION:

Mr. Klein, seconded by Mr. Miozzi made a motion to approve the proposed renovation and addition for the Bogomolny residence at 844 Hardwood Ct as noted.   

ROLL CALL

Ayes: Mr. Dinardo, Mr. Klein, Mr. Miozzi 
Nays: None                                       

Motion Carried. Drawings Approved & Signed.


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Gary & Peggy Streiff
Sun Room Addition
953 Kenwood Dr
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Chairman Dinardo moves to next agenda item; sun room addition on Kenwood Drive. 

Todd Alexander representative with Great Day Improvement introduced himself. There’s an existing deck we built in 2005/06, all built to code. They’re backed up against the woods and they want to put in a Three-Season screen and storm glass window units to get more use out of the back area. Because of the bugs, they can’t sit out there. It’s on a deck foundation so we have to add some supports to it when you figure we’re putting a roof load on there. Our Engineer has done drawings on that. There’s an open porch underneath it that has a sliding door going out.

Mr. Marrelli asked the height from the bottom of the floor joist to the grade underneath the deck.

Todd Alexander replied about 4’ to actual grade then it’s dug out and steps go down to the sliding door, that’s another 3’.

SHINGLES

Chairman moves to the tie-in, we want it to look like it’s been there. It says shingles to match existing. What color? This photo has snow, can’t tell.  

Todd Alexander not sure how old existing are, but will bring new photos w/o snow and shingle samples in.

Chairman said if the house shingles are 15 – 20 years old, you may have to look at re-shingling it.

NEW POSTS - CONNECTION

Mr. Marrelli said the new 6 x 6 posts you’re putting underneath existing beam, how do you propose to make that connection? To the 2 x 12 ledger, how are you going to get this 6 x 6 underneath it? They’re not going to just try and nail it, are they? We don’t know what this glass weight is you’re putting on this deck.

Todd Alexander replied we’ll use Simpson steel anchors.

Mr. Marrelli said we don’t know what this glass weight is that you’re putting on this deck.

Todd Alexander said it’s not an Andersen, but it’s insulated glass.

Mr. Marrelli asked, is the wall coming down on the posts or is it coming down outside the post?

Todd Alexander replied it’s coming directly down on the post.

Height from floor to top plate

Chairman asked the actual height from the floor to the top plate.

Mr. Marrelli replied 66 plus 18.

Out-Swinging Storm Door

Chairman asked, does this door open out?  

Mr. Miozzi said if it opens out, he’ll need a bigger landing because they’re calling for only a 12” platform. He’ll need a 3 foot landing.

Todd Alexander said we had that set up originally as an in-swinging storm door.

Chairman said drawing shows it as out-swinging.

Todd Alexander said if it doesn’t meet code, we could make it an in-swing. 

Chairman asked, so swing-in or swing-out?

Todd Alexander replied swing-in. You say to swing-out it has to have a 3’ landing outside. I’m pretty sure we can’t move the deck.

Trim Detail & Color

Todd Alexander said we’re just trimming out to match the house; the support posts, the fascias.

Chairman said you have a deck that’s dark brown in color. You’re leaving the bottom open. What’s going to happen with the posts? 

Todd Alexander said we have to cap the rim anyway, because we’re putting a ¾” sub floor over the decking. We’ll cap that and cap the floor rim white if you prefer that.

Chairman asked, the bottom stain you’ll make similar to what’s there, and white capping? 

Mr. Marrelli said as long as it blends because everything’s dark brown under there now. The glass lands on the deck. The frame is white trim. It’s going to be basically white panels with glass in them sitting on a brown deck. You might have to stain the new posts. Just go to the bottom of your glass with your white cap.

Roof Drainage

Chairman asked, how are you going to drain the north side? I don’t see a downspout.

Todd Alexander said that’s our issue. Thought is to drop them both out front and run a 4” PVC suspended with the J-hooks on the back side of that carrier beam, then we’d have to tie it in on the right hand side, then we’d dig it from the back of the house. We’d go underneath and tie it in. Land is pretty flat back there.

Tie-In Detail

Chairman asked, how is this thing going to actually tie into the house at the corner? This is the critical part; roof’s coming down, the overhang, you’ve got a downspout there, existing wood siding, you’ve got that top of the sliding door.    

Todd Alexander said I had Eli Mahler do these drawings, our CAD was down. I’ll get it back to our CAD department to make the corrections.

Chairman explains, this is a different deck, it’s not 2’ off the ground. It’s 5’ – 6’ off the ground with posts and structure under here.

Todd Alexander said we offer an Engineer stamped drawing.

Mr. Marrelli said if you come in with an Engineer stamp, get everything done to code, it’s not a heated room so you don’t have to worry about the energy code.

Chairman concerned about the tie-in detail. From the front of the house, if you pull into the garage, you’re going to see this issue on the south side. How does that wall tie into the house?

Todd Alexander replied, we’ll cut the siding, put 4 x 4 posts in there and cap them back inside the siding. I could J-Channel it on either side of the posts.

Chairman doesn’t think that’ll be attractive.

Discussion ensued on any way to do it attractively.

Mr. Marrelli suggested insetting the wall.

Chairman asked about the existing siding.

Todd Alexander said it’s wood siding.

Mr. Marrelli said you need to be inside by 4” – 6” to hide that detail.

TABLED

Return Feb 27th with revised elevation drawing showing:

  • Accurate measurements
  • Rafter heights for clearance
  • Bring More Photos
  • Bring Sample Colors

 

Student Visitor. Chairman Dinardo welcomed Zade from Ruffing Montessori in Cleveland Heights who is here tonight to observe as part of his 8th grade class requirement.

ADJOURNMENT:

There being no further business, Mr. Klein, seconded by Mr. Miozzi made a motion to adjourn the meeting.

ROLL CALL

Ayes: All                                
Nays: None               

Motion Carried. Meeting adjourned at 8:10 p.m.